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In case you want to see this ... Fuuka Shiraishi was already transferred to Brilliant Aries, is on the "Will they play" list with "Nagano Nichidai , and the "Will she play with Nagano" is on her profile page, along with being listed at Brilliant Aries 2019-2019.

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Akane Shimizu. Was on the "Will they play" list. I do remember signing her to Himeji Victorina. I went to her profile and she had Himeji 2019/20 - 2019/20 as a club, but also had the "Will she play at Aichi Gakuin University in 2020-21"? so I clicked No, then "Found a new Club" and put in Himeji Credentials. Info saved

She still has Himeji as just 2019/20 - 2019/20. I think this is what happened to Yuki Nakano as well. 

This seems like collateral damage and I can deal with it (50-80 players, likely) -- ... but it is odd that confirming her to 2021 via the "Will she play" dialog doesn't stick

Maybe Yuki Nakano is collateral damage to this re-animation experiment. I don't have a vivid memory of doing it but I'm pretty good at adding College players to a Pro club when it happens. Yuki signed with Breath on April 15, 2020. I added her to Breath in my own database --and put a checkmark by her name, which is supposed to tell me that I added her to volleybox as well. Yes, I'm that anal.

@Volleybox  hmm ... Not sure if this is illuminating, or if I just missed something, but I went to Yuki Nakano's profile (because I was working through Breath Hamamatsu and noticed she wasn't there with them. That's because she was still current (terminated at 2019, but that's okay and true) with NSSU. Her profile page had the "Will she still play with NSSU" dialog. I clicked "No", then "Found a new Club", and put in Breath Hamamatsu and a confirming link.

She showed up on the Transfers page, but isn't in the 2020-21 current roster of the Breath Hamamatsu. She's terminated at 2019-20. I'm going to leave it that way in case it helps uncover a "trace of the crime" :) (love that phrase)

@Volleybox Cool, thanks this is kinda fun now :)

Can you look at a snapshot of the database before the switch to 2020-21 occurred? 

I can't speak to, or be responsible for, the rest of the world, but it would be easier for me if you set every Japanese female player who was active in 2019 to empty. I assume that would populate the Where they will play in season 2020/21 ()? page?

I could then just re-retire the couple dozen already marked as retired (I know who they are), and zip through confirming those who will play with a team.

Maybe I'm missing some collateral damage that would cause because I'm not a coder.

 

@Volleybox I'm not sure what you mean by "find the full path to reproduce that bug". 

A quick scan shows me that several players who didn't have a team, but were registered for 2020-21, have the team listed now (eg., Shion Hirayama, Sanae Watanabe)

I've just set a few players who were terminated at 2019-20 to "empty" and who didn't have a team (eg., Aimi Kawashima, Mako Kobata, Arisa Nagano) . We'll see if they show a team after the system refresh. 

@Dorien  It's all good. I didn't know you folks don't have access to historical (alternate) name field. 

When you add an Arena is there not a circle with a plus sign in it right under where you " - Type Name - "?

We need a big picture of the building with the name spelled out in Latin characters to know for sure. Japanese is tough. Fact is, "臨海" means all three of those things. "rinkai" is literal Japanese; "linhai" is literal Chinese; "seaside" and "coastal" are 'meanings', as I understand it.

And Hekinan is a "seaside" town after all :)

My brain is exploding

@ojvolleyball Upon further reflection I think "Rinkai" should be the official volleybox name and "seaside" as a google alternative. Bing is usually better than google in my experience, at Japanese translation of "names" of people and things. Google seems to go more for literal translations and Bing seems to have a backend database of proper nouns and names that it applies to translations. 

Thanks for sticking with it

@ojvolleyball  I use that site a lot, and have it linked in the Hekinan profile (I put it in the LinkedIn Field).

I take their "English" to be translated. Microsoft Bing translates it as "Hekinan City Rinkai Gymnasium" Google as "Hekinan City Seaside Gymnasium". I forgot to add the Rinkai version to historical names (added now). I went with "Seaside" because it's an English word. I also dictionary'd "臨海" and assumed it means 'seaside' but it could be a proper noun of a sponsoring company. Hmmm.

Either way, that's why I like to put all the options in the historical names field, so depending on what translation service a person uses there will be a match, and with the native name in there you can't go wrong

@Dorien @ojvolleyball That arena, "Hekinan City Seaside Gymnasium", we're talking about in the other thread about man/woman sides of the site is a great example of the usefulness of native names. Without the native name I had to try and reverse engineer "Hekinan City Linhai Gymnasium" LOL


Once you have the native name, depending on what you use to translate it, it may see  碧南市臨海体育館 as Chinese characters  and translate it as "Binan City Linhai Stadium". Even switching to Japanese you might get "Hekinan City Rinkai Gymnasium". But if you DuckduckGo in Japanese you get a few top hits (which I added as homepages) that suggest "Hekinan City Seaside Gymnasium". So that's what I changed it to.


@Dorien  I hope that's cool with you :)

 

 

Related to this, adding the "Homepage" is very helpful. Sometimes it's nothing more than a blurb on the City's website under "exercise and recreation", but it really helps to narrow things down.

I've also asked for the "Homepage" Field to be added to the popup sheet when you have to "Create New" Arena. That is, if you go to add an arena from a Club's page, search for it and no results, you click "Create New". That popup sheet doesn't have a Homepage Field. I wish it did.

Yes! I always always add the native name in "historical names",  and I add the various translation possibilities, and the "Pet names", etc. The dupes you can find and prevent by doing this are many. Use it with Duckduckgo and turn on "Japan" results (if you're searching  Japanese names or places)

I'd like to see native names for  players as well

@Volleybox I'm getting punted now when "accepting" things, like arenas and Regla Martinez's facebook link. I wasn't paying close attention as I thought the first one was a fluke and then the Regla occurred. I can just hit the back button when it happens but in this line of work milliseconds count :)

Aha! I think I know what happened. I created a New Player in order to test something. Then I realized I couldn't delete her, so I favorited her so I'd know where she was, and when finished testing I would ask @Volleybox to delete her. That new player has been deleted and Amanda must have taken her place

Name of Japan League 3 years ago 0

@ojvolleyball  You prefer "Japan V.League" to "Japanese V.League"?

I never thought about this. It seems there is a tendency here to go for adjectives over nouns, as in Scottish League over Scotland League, Spanish over Spain when naming Clubs, and reserving the nouns for national teams: Scotland U23.  Although some like Singapore and Vietnam don't use Singaporean and Vietnamese. Hmmm. 

@Volleybox is there a "style sheet", so to speak on this? I prefer "Japan V.League" only because that's what I've always known it as, but I like to embrace consistency whenever possible

Name of Japan League 3 years ago 0

@ojvolleyball @Volleybox   Oh !  I see over on the man version of the site it is indeed "V.Premier league". It's weird that V2 and V3 are called V.League. I've changed it, although the man version uses "Japanese" while the women uses "Japan" -- as in "Japanese V.League Division 1 2020/21" vs  "Japan V.League Division 1 2020/21"

 

Name of Japan League 3 years ago 0

It is called V.League here, Divisions 1 & 2. V.Premier League is in the Alternate Title field. 

@Volleybox That's cool, thanks. Yeah I couldn't reproduce that one either

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